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i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune and they do an excellent job. the police department took a look at our protocol, and said that the only way to protect our students right now is to have a police officer present in the school. these are the same people we call if there is an active shooter event in 911. so instead of waiting the five minutes to get them there, they are present, they are law enforcement, they are professionals, they know how to handle themselves. the nra is using in as an excuse to circumvent the argument on gun control, and that's wrong. that's not what our intent is. our intent is only to protect our students. >> so, as you say, through the limited capacity you have, because you don't have federal, or state powers, how do
i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune and they do an excellent job. the police department took a look at our protocol, and said that the only way to protect our students right now is to have a police...
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i see even the royals it's a question of the in-laws. what do you do. and a marine veteran jailed for trying to carry a family shot gun across the border, was freed today. he was met at the border by officials and his family. >> flights are delayed as folks are heading home to grandmas. airports across the country have been very busy. gabe, some have delays and then they don't, what does it look like now? >> that is exactly right. as you can see behind me, doing well as it has been for a while, but as you mentioned there were problems reported in the northeast. new york's jfk is experiencing delays of more than an hour and a half. and newark is also reporting delays, of about 45 minutes due to wind. we had heard earlier in the day that washington dulles had the same problems but those are clearing up and early this morning. san francisco, had rain delays. and we will be in a much, much situation. more than 1600 flights were cancelled throughout the country. so far, nearly 1 in 4 americans will travel over the next few days. that is up from last year and
i see even the royals it's a question of the in-laws. what do you do. and a marine veteran jailed for trying to carry a family shot gun across the border, was freed today. he was met at the border by officials and his family. >> flights are delayed as folks are heading home to grandmas. airports across the country have been very busy. gabe, some have delays and then they don't, what does it look like now? >> that is exactly right. as you can see behind me, doing well as it has been...
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they want no new laws. we really have almost no laws restricting guns at all. but they want no new laws, no new change. so they move from the party wealthy, now to the party of glocks. they say don't want people to have the right to bear arms, but they want to have people have the right to bear killing machines that can kill people with 20, 30, 40 round clips. this is not big ten politics. almost all of these policies are insulting some large group of people. >> which is why they lost the election. >> they have a very small coalition. >> they don't even have the reign. but when you look at the polling even on the fiscal cliff stuff, president obama, rochelle, on a new poll, 54% approve of his handling of the fiscal cliff. only 26% support joan boehner. so the politics of it is not even working for them. they're purists, but they're not being practical, even politically. everyone as they don't stand for what you and i may think is the right thing. they're not even being practical about this. >> well, with taxes, it's so complicated because the republican party h
they want no new laws. we really have almost no laws restricting guns at all. but they want no new laws, no new change. so they move from the party wealthy, now to the party of glocks. they say don't want people to have the right to bear arms, but they want to have people have the right to bear killing machines that can kill people with 20, 30, 40 round clips. this is not big ten politics. almost all of these policies are insulting some large group of people. >> which is why they lost the...
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you're a stockholder in -- who are trying to get around laws being designed to keep people safe, then i think you need to look at what yours corporation is doing. the same from consumers ease point of view as wellivities tracy, thank you for your time. >>> surprising comments from mitt romney's oldest son tagg romney. >>> but first the fight over aid for hurricanes sandy victims. the republicans offered ♪ [ male announcer ] you've reached the age where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age of knowing how to make things happen. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in v
you're a stockholder in -- who are trying to get around laws being designed to keep people safe, then i think you need to look at what yours corporation is doing. the same from consumers ease point of view as wellivities tracy, thank you for your time. >>> surprising comments from mitt romney's oldest son tagg romney. >>> but first the fight over aid for hurricanes sandy victims. the republicans offered ♪ [ male announcer ] you've reached the age where you don't back down...
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the queen is kind of a xxi century queen and alouss laws t. >> reporter: so 21st century, she did it in 3d. it is queen elizabeth that led the phone age to social network ing and facebook and she's even a doodle on google. >> by the time she made her first televised christmas speech 55 years ago, she was a mark. >> for those it's possible to see me today, it's another example of the speed of which things are changing all around us. >> reporter: more than ever at christmas she remains a symbol of longevity and tradition as the windsors look forward to kate's first child and heir to the throne and next year's christmas reunion. nbc news, london. >>> if you plan to head to the movie, you better make sure you have a little ex-tra time becaue many season's blockbusters are clocking in at almost three hours. a report from hollywood. >> reporter: they are ep ic productions, earning oscar buzz. >> shall we stop this bleeding? >> reporter: this year's blockbusters have something else in common. you better block out three hours if you want to see one. as we approach the end of the year, holl's
the queen is kind of a xxi century queen and alouss laws t. >> reporter: so 21st century, she did it in 3d. it is queen elizabeth that led the phone age to social network ing and facebook and she's even a doodle on google. >> by the time she made her first televised christmas speech 55 years ago, she was a mark. >> for those it's possible to see me today, it's another example of the speed of which things are changing all around us. >> reporter: more than ever at...
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we won't stop until there's common sense gun poll laws at the federal and state level. >> there's an equation that goes in to this and talking about gun regulation as being a punlg factor in all of it, everyone from the left and right brought up whether there's other contributing factors. one senator was on this morning seeming willing to put all of these options on the table, but specifically, when it comes to talking beyond gun regulation. take a listen. >> we have to do everything we have. it will include looking at how many bullets do you need in a magazine in a semiautomatic weapon. and we need to talk about xbox 360 and wii and those games and how far down in this to children they're getting. we need to talk about movies and we need to talk about the rating systems. >> does she have a point, shannon? >> absolutely. we live in a very, very violent society. so the answer to that is not to increase the guns we all have. i think there's some distraction of the issue by the nra and they want us to look at other things and we should but that doesn't mean to take our focus off of the
we won't stop until there's common sense gun poll laws at the federal and state level. >> there's an equation that goes in to this and talking about gun regulation as being a punlg factor in all of it, everyone from the left and right brought up whether there's other contributing factors. one senator was on this morning seeming willing to put all of these options on the table, but specifically, when it comes to talking beyond gun regulation. take a listen. >> we have to do...
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do you have the stomach for the political fight for new gun control laws? >> you know, david, i think anybody who was up in newtown, who talked to the parents, who talked to the families, understands that something fundamental in america has to change. and all of us have to do some soul-searching, including me as president. that we allow a situation in which 20 precious, small children are getting gunned down in a classroom. and i've been very clear that an assault rifle ban, banning these high-capacity clips, background checks, that they're a set of issues that i have historically supported and will continue to support. >> can you get it done? >> so the question is, are we going to be able to have a national conversation and move something through congress? i'd like to get it done in the first year. i will put forward a very specific proposal based on the recommendations that joe biden's task force is putting together as we speak. and so this is not something that i will be putting off. but -- >> the nra says it's not going to work. it didn't work before,
do you have the stomach for the political fight for new gun control laws? >> you know, david, i think anybody who was up in newtown, who talked to the parents, who talked to the families, understands that something fundamental in america has to change. and all of us have to do some soul-searching, including me as president. that we allow a situation in which 20 precious, small children are getting gunned down in a classroom. and i've been very clear that an assault rifle ban, banning...
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because of those laws and other laws crime declined. now that these mass shootings seem to be almost the new normal, i think the broad middle will rise up and that will help us. in the last ten years the whole debate has been dominated by the small but militant number 3 million, 4 million nra people in the -- >> as a republican, do you think the nra has the same clout to be absolutist about this, even if it means searching compromise it is may not look and maybe the entertainment industry has to accept compromises it may not like. >> i own an ar-15. the question is if you deny me the right to buy another one, do you make it safer? you try to get murderers off the street by better mental health detection, try to find ways that understands them who they are. i don't suggest we ban every movie with a gun in it and every video that's violent and i don't suggest you take my right to buy an ar-15 away from me because i don't think it will work and i do believe better security in schools is a good place to start. >> would you ban high-capacity
because of those laws and other laws crime declined. now that these mass shootings seem to be almost the new normal, i think the broad middle will rise up and that will help us. in the last ten years the whole debate has been dominated by the small but militant number 3 million, 4 million nra people in the -- >> as a republican, do you think the nra has the same clout to be absolutist about this, even if it means searching compromise it is may not look and maybe the entertainment industry...
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its gun laws are similar to those of l.a. and new york, but police say illegal guns are flooding in inner city. mayor rahm emanuel blames illegal guns too. he also blames blight, poverty, and gaps in policing. but the truth is, 80% of the homicides in chicago are black-on-black crimes. groups like cease-fire say we need to change the way young people talk to each other. >> why you keep looking at me crazy? if you come on this block again and look at me crazy, you know what i'm going to do you, man. a simple argument like that could turn deadly. in order to stop a homicide, you have to have the ability to intercept a whisper. >> joining me now, jesse jackson, the founder and president of the rainbow push coalition. reverend jackson, thank you to the show. >> thank you, sir. >> sir, you appeared on "the ed show" two years ago to talk about the violence in chicago. it's only gotten worse. what needs to change now to make certain that we have a different result next year than we had in making a grim history this year? >> chris, i
its gun laws are similar to those of l.a. and new york, but police say illegal guns are flooding in inner city. mayor rahm emanuel blames illegal guns too. he also blames blight, poverty, and gaps in policing. but the truth is, 80% of the homicides in chicago are black-on-black crimes. groups like cease-fire say we need to change the way young people talk to each other. >> why you keep looking at me crazy? if you come on this block again and look at me crazy, you know what i'm going to do...
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they're for military or law enforcement. bottom line. >> what's your thoughts about this in writing about it? >> i say amen to just what the mayor just said. this is what i have written. there is no reason to have these sorts of assault weapons in civilian hands. they're designed to kill people. they're designed to kill a lot of people quickly. that's not for hunting. >> when you get bombarded, i don't know if you read your comments -- >> yeah, i do. >> when you read a comment along those lines, do you hear from principle second amendment people? or do you hear from deer hunters? >> i hear from all of those people. i also hear from police officer, from responsible gun owners, from self described nra members who say you're absolutely right. you know, yes, i want my hunting rifle, but i don't need the ar-15 knock off or the ak-47 knock off. i don't need that. remember, there were armed guards at columbine who engaged the shooters in gunfire. and it did not stop it. >> mr. mayor, what are your police officers, charles ramsey an
they're for military or law enforcement. bottom line. >> what's your thoughts about this in writing about it? >> i say amen to just what the mayor just said. this is what i have written. there is no reason to have these sorts of assault weapons in civilian hands. they're designed to kill people. they're designed to kill a lot of people quickly. that's not for hunting. >> when you get bombarded, i don't know if you read your comments -- >> yeah, i do. >> when you...
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do you have the stomach for the political fight for new gun control laws? >> david, i think anybody who was up in newtown who talked to the parents, who talked to the families, understands that, you know, something fundamental in america has to change. and all of us have to do some soul searching, including me as president, that we allow a situation in which 20 precious small children are getting gunned down in a classroom. and i've been very clear that, you know, an assault rifle ban, banning these high capacity clips, background checks, that there are a set of issues that i have historically supported and will continue to support. >> but can you get it done? i mean the politics is the question. >> so the question is, are we going to be able to have a national conversation and move something through congress? i'd like to get it done in the first year. i will put forward a very specific proposal based on the recommendations that joe biden's task force is putting together as we speak. and so this is not something that i will be putting off. but -- >> the a s
do you have the stomach for the political fight for new gun control laws? >> david, i think anybody who was up in newtown who talked to the parents, who talked to the families, understands that, you know, something fundamental in america has to change. and all of us have to do some soul searching, including me as president, that we allow a situation in which 20 precious small children are getting gunned down in a classroom. and i've been very clear that, you know, an assault rifle ban,...
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we have a system of government where nobody is above the law. where we have an obligation to hold each other accountable. >> president obama was not only honoring a public servant who inspired him personally, but paying homage to a past or a functional one. a past that is a flash in the rear-view mirror of this congress because this is the congress of today. >> as you know, the house did not take up the tax bill last night because we didn't have the votes to pass it. it's not the outcome that i wanted. that was the will of the house. >> it was the will of the house to do nothing? on thursday night, the members of the elected house of representatives decided it would you describe not their will to take a vote on their own leadership's proposal. it would have exempted the first million dollars of income from a tax increase. there was no chance of being passed into law as the president made clear he would veto it. if the speaker's plan b passed the democrat controlled senate. this was a republican proposal. house democrats would not have supported
we have a system of government where nobody is above the law. where we have an obligation to hold each other accountable. >> president obama was not only honoring a public servant who inspired him personally, but paying homage to a past or a functional one. a past that is a flash in the rear-view mirror of this congress because this is the congress of today. >> as you know, the house did not take up the tax bill last night because we didn't have the votes to pass it. it's not the...
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to determine its own gun laws. perhaps it should be no surprise you, the card carrying member of the nra who rode to victory with tea party backing, made your position clear when you first ran for congress, saying quote, i stand strongly in support of our second amendment rights. the constitution grants south carolinans the right to defend themselves and their families and i will continue fighting to make sure that right is not weakened in any way. really, congressman, all of this when of the 142 guns used by the perpetrators of the 62 mass murders since 1982 in this country, three-quarters of those guns were obtained legally. all of this when in 2008 and 2009, gun deaths were the leading cause of death among black teens. let's be clear. even though you stand to be the only african-american senator in 2013, this is not about race. you said when you chose not to join the congressional black caucus that your campaign was never about race, and that's fine. you will be the senator representing the great state of south
to determine its own gun laws. perhaps it should be no surprise you, the card carrying member of the nra who rode to victory with tea party backing, made your position clear when you first ran for congress, saying quote, i stand strongly in support of our second amendment rights. the constitution grants south carolinans the right to defend themselves and their families and i will continue fighting to make sure that right is not weakened in any way. really, congressman, all of this when of the...
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in a state that certainly has tougher gun laws than, say, a lot of other red states. in a community that seems like it should have been so shielded from this and a season that is supposed to be about peace. >> exactly. >> i think it underlined in so many ways why none of us, are none of us are shielded from this kind of violence unless we force our leaders to do something. >> well, and, again, i think i worry about what andrea mitchell is saying about the concern about whether or not the president in congress has the guts to do something. i would say that it would be one of the most disappointing things i've ever witnessed in my entire lifetime. if we can't make fundamental changes in our gun laws but, not only that, in how we handle mental illness in this country, school security in this country and, also, the pervasive and deadly culture of these violent video games which i don't care, i'll say it, feed into this. feed into almost every profile that we see and literally give these young shooters, these young, male shooters guide posts as to how to commit a mass murd
in a state that certainly has tougher gun laws than, say, a lot of other red states. in a community that seems like it should have been so shielded from this and a season that is supposed to be about peace. >> exactly. >> i think it underlined in so many ways why none of us, are none of us are shielded from this kind of violence unless we force our leaders to do something. >> well, and, again, i think i worry about what andrea mitchell is saying about the concern about whether...
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that story and of course, the newtown school shooting has drawn a lot of attention to gun control laws in this country as lawmakers and lobbyists debate solutions and some are taking actions themselves. the big idea today, gun buybacks. in new haven, connecticut, towns offering cash or gift cards for anyone handling a gun. and a city an hour from newtown, connecticut, a buyback program happening right now is no-doubt personal. joining me live now on the telephone is bridgeport mayor bill finch. mayor, good to have you. we have you on the phone because the skype connection wouldn't have been great. >> it's good to be here. we worked so hard, but the technology doesn't always work with you. >> is the gun buyback program drawing a big response? >>s yes, we raised over $100,000 in food coupons from the local grocer and we've had over 300 guns sold back to the city, spent a little over 30,000 in -- you know, i think people are happy to do it. we're only 20 miles from the school and it hit everybody pretty hard. >> gun buyers seem to be back out there getting those guns ever since newtown, t
that story and of course, the newtown school shooting has drawn a lot of attention to gun control laws in this country as lawmakers and lobbyists debate solutions and some are taking actions themselves. the big idea today, gun buybacks. in new haven, connecticut, towns offering cash or gift cards for anyone handling a gun. and a city an hour from newtown, connecticut, a buyback program happening right now is no-doubt personal. joining me live now on the telephone is bridgeport mayor bill finch....
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but there's a principle in law that you don't put a witness on the stand if you don't know what they're going to say. i think there's also a principle at work here that you don't dangle the possibility of a deal that you can't deliver. and i think the volatility in the markets and people i have spoken to agree with me, the volatility is in part because speaker boehner, scott brown, other people keep dangling the potential 6 a deal that isn't ultimately delivered and those expectations are the problem. so i think going forward into 2013 you won't necessarily see this because i think that maybe after the 3rd they will be smart enough on capitol hill to do a two-year deal, to get us to 2014 without having to do this annually. >> and if they don't, joy, aren't we just going to expend all the political capital that's left in this town on these kind of deals? there's not really going to be any time or energy to do anything else? >> you're absolutely right. you have imagrees reform, gun issues out there. the problem is we are starting to look like an ungovernable country. we're starting to loo
but there's a principle in law that you don't put a witness on the stand if you don't know what they're going to say. i think there's also a principle at work here that you don't dangle the possibility of a deal that you can't deliver. and i think the volatility in the markets and people i have spoken to agree with me, the volatility is in part because speaker boehner, scott brown, other people keep dangling the potential 6 a deal that isn't ultimately delivered and those expectations are the...
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and so, my great fear is, maybe we do go back to the laws of 1994. but i'm note sure in this day and age, when you add up all the other issues, whether it comes to video games, whether it comes to some of these mental health issues, that we get there. and i just would plug two things. one, there is a technological solution that i keep hearing more and more about, which is that we should force gun makers to fingerprint, to have electronic fingerprints on the guns. to attach the guns to individuals if we're going to have them out there at all. i'm not talking about semi-automatics. i'm talking about just straight handguns. and the second issue is, in this world that we live in, you know, i was just at the airport, we spend billions of dollars with the tsa, literally to avoid one shoe bomber? right? we're trying to avoid that one person with mental health issues. so as much as i want to focus on the mental health issues, i think the guns ultimately are it. >> well, you look at, mika, the fact that we have allowed the federal government to be intrusive.
and so, my great fear is, maybe we do go back to the laws of 1994. but i'm note sure in this day and age, when you add up all the other issues, whether it comes to video games, whether it comes to some of these mental health issues, that we get there. and i just would plug two things. one, there is a technological solution that i keep hearing more and more about, which is that we should force gun makers to fingerprint, to have electronic fingerprints on the guns. to attach the guns to...
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not a law banning assault weapons. not a law tightening access to ammunition. not any kind of law that would make it in any way even slightly more difficult for a mad man to obtain the very best tools in the world for up close mass murder. not one more law. it is now impossible to count how many people wayne lapierre owes an apology to. there are all of those who have been killed by weapons that became available after he made sure the assault weapons ban would not be renewed. there are the parents of the dead, the brothers and sisters of the dead. the children of the dead. and then there are millions. truly, millions and millions more. because in his most vile fundraising letter before the last presidential election, wayne lapierre actually said this about what would happen if barack obama was reelected president of the united states. "the night of november 6th, 2012, you and i will lose more on the election battlefield than our nation has lost in any battle any time, anywhere." there is wayne lapierre claiming on election night that he, who of course avoided s
not a law banning assault weapons. not a law tightening access to ammunition. not any kind of law that would make it in any way even slightly more difficult for a mad man to obtain the very best tools in the world for up close mass murder. not one more law. it is now impossible to count how many people wayne lapierre owes an apology to. there are all of those who have been killed by weapons that became available after he made sure the assault weapons ban would not be renewed. there are the...
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i'm there to enforce the laws as they exist. >> you have an opinion, you are the chief law enforcer in the state. what is your opinion on it? >> even within my jurisdiction, i have a lot of controversies on my plate. so i have chosen not to get in the area. and i have been pushing the idea of providing free training. i have 36 investigators that are sworn police officers, and i expect a number of sheriffs to join in to me, to provide free training to the schools so they have somebody there able to deal with emergencies if they arise. >> tom horn, i appreciate you, everyone if you did not answer my last question. >> thank you. craig. >> i want to dig in deeper with our own saturday brain trust, we are not going to stop talking about this. thanks gentlemen for being back. >> great to be with you. >> doug, starting with you, arming the teachers is that one of the answers to gun violence in the country? >> i think we need to take a complete look at the situation. i think you know, mr. lapierre seems to think that guns had nothing to do with the issue in newtown. it's interesting to hear th
i'm there to enforce the laws as they exist. >> you have an opinion, you are the chief law enforcer in the state. what is your opinion on it? >> even within my jurisdiction, i have a lot of controversies on my plate. so i have chosen not to get in the area. and i have been pushing the idea of providing free training. i have 36 investigators that are sworn police officers, and i expect a number of sheriffs to join in to me, to provide free training to the schools so they have...
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if they were to go up by law, conceivably they could come back in january and lower them and campaign on the fact that they lowers taxed. >> let's take a look at what speaker boehner said on friday. >> many of us believe on both sides of the aisle, the fundamental reform of our taxes will help get our economy moving faster and get more americans back to work. how we get there, god only knows. >> so the president says he's going to head back to washington after christmas to try and hammer out a deal before new year's. babe boehner said god only knows, god and ed o'keefe. how do they get there? >> for practical reasons there, are bills sitting in either chamber right now that the other chamber has passed, the house is telling the senate, pass our bill. the senate is telling the house pass our bill. either of those bills could be amended and sent back across the capitol, and make some changes, and send it back for final passage and sent send it to the president. can you get that done in five or six days after christmas before new year's? you know, it could, it would require a miracle fro
if they were to go up by law, conceivably they could come back in january and lower them and campaign on the fact that they lowers taxed. >> let's take a look at what speaker boehner said on friday. >> many of us believe on both sides of the aisle, the fundamental reform of our taxes will help get our economy moving faster and get more americans back to work. how we get there, god only knows. >> so the president says he's going to head back to washington after christmas to try...
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i don't want to go into the technicalities and the law. essentially, if one is not approved by the january 1 deadline, prices for food and milk could shoot up. where are we on the farm bill? >> we passed a bill, a bipartisan bill back in june. $24 billion in savings. t.j., we did in agricultural committee what everyone wants. we cut government subsidies that shouldn't be given. we set priorities, organize billions of dollars, sent it to the house. the house committee acted. for the life of me, i cannot understand why the speaker of the house turned his back on rural america, on consumers. people get their jobs because of agricultu agriculture. here we are running up to this cliff. if something is not done, milk prices are going to double or triple. so, we have to at least pass what's called an extension of current law. the four agricultural leaders, republican, democrat, house, senate have come together. all four of us agreed on language to do that. now they need to get it passed. >> are they going to get it passed? >> they have to. i beli
i don't want to go into the technicalities and the law. essentially, if one is not approved by the january 1 deadline, prices for food and milk could shoot up. where are we on the farm bill? >> we passed a bill, a bipartisan bill back in june. $24 billion in savings. t.j., we did in agricultural committee what everyone wants. we cut government subsidies that shouldn't be given. we set priorities, organize billions of dollars, sent it to the house. the house committee acted. for the life...
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law and international law. with evidence remaining about the program still classified, although our history of torture remains largely unresolved, those few making the words debunct for effectiveness are still concerned. i went into this film, i started to read a little bit of it. glenn, you wrote about it, spencer, you wrote about it, you have different views i want to hear about, but i went in to keep an open mind. i cut myself off from reading more because i did not want impressions and i was horrified by the film. i think it is really objectively protorture. and i would say colloudes with evil. spencer, i want you to convince me that i'm wrong. >> i thought first there's the utility to the film that gets to the heart of what you said about a lack of reckoning with torture. first, there's kind of, i guess you would say an antiseptic debate when we hear in the abstract without knowing what it means the torture techniques that were used, particularly at the cia's black sense. you hear terms like stress positio
law and international law. with evidence remaining about the program still classified, although our history of torture remains largely unresolved, those few making the words debunct for effectiveness are still concerned. i went into this film, i started to read a little bit of it. glenn, you wrote about it, spencer, you wrote about it, you have different views i want to hear about, but i went in to keep an open mind. i cut myself off from reading more because i did not want impressions and i...
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>> one more law on top of laws that the u.s. government doesn't enforce. if the u.s. attorneys would do ten cases a month, that would be 12,000 cases, 20 a month, 24,000 cases. that would get the worst people in the country that are killing people off the street. right now, david, you know how many cases we're doing in the whole country on prosecuting under all the federal gun laws? take a guess. take a guess. >> you tell me. >> 6,000. it's pitiful, and the drug dealers and the gangs and the criminals know it and they go about their business, and there are 25,000 violent crimes a week in the country, and at scene of the crime it's the criminal and the victim. >> isn't it striking, mr. lapierre, your goal is to reduce violence in this country, and i think back to the reaction after the oklahoma city bombing. i think back to the reaction after 9/11. nobody said there was one thing that was going to work. look at how extensive the federal government's powers that they south, roving wiretaps, all kinds of counter-terror procedures. some work. some don't, but the feeling i
>> one more law on top of laws that the u.s. government doesn't enforce. if the u.s. attorneys would do ten cases a month, that would be 12,000 cases, 20 a month, 24,000 cases. that would get the worst people in the country that are killing people off the street. right now, david, you know how many cases we're doing in the whole country on prosecuting under all the federal gun laws? take a guess. take a guess. >> you tell me. >> 6,000. it's pitiful, and the drug dealers and...
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. >> there were two armed law enforcement officers who twice engaged the shooters at columbine. that didn't prevent 15 from being killed and 23 wounded. >> mark, you know, the nra, we all know here in this conversation. it's been so powerful for so many years, in another day and age, lawmakers and the public might have listened to what he said yesterday, but this is now. what is different here in terms of his call for arming schools? will even be listened to? >> richard, normally the pr 101 is a group that seems to be under siege and of course, the nra was attracting a lot of negative attention and you typically make a concession or two, even if it's a fig leaf, just to be able to strike the right tone and make sure you're not on the wrong side of public opinion and on the wrong side whof holds the higher ground. you were just interviewing a woman who was a survivor of gun violence before the break and right now, particularly after the tragedy that we saw in connecticut, those people were occupying the high ground in this debate and it is going to be interesting how wayne lapier
. >> there were two armed law enforcement officers who twice engaged the shooters at columbine. that didn't prevent 15 from being killed and 23 wounded. >> mark, you know, the nra, we all know here in this conversation. it's been so powerful for so many years, in another day and age, lawmakers and the public might have listened to what he said yesterday, but this is now. what is different here in terms of his call for arming schools? will even be listened to? >> richard,...
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he thought that -- mused at one point every law should be looked at again after 20 years. that one generation did not have the right to bind another. to my mind the most significant insight of his was that to ask a country to be governed by a constitution written when it was young is like asking a man to wear a child's coat. you don't simply accept as true things that are handed on simply because they are handed off. and we are -- there is a kind of -- back to the future quality to the gun debate in -- in these terms because you have unreconstructed, reflexive gun advocates saying that anything that's done to a document written 200 and x years ago is a slippery slope to chaos and tyranny. but no one at the time would have argued, certainly not thomas jefferson works have argued that this was going to be the law forever. >> tomorrow at this time, talking about president obama's legacy. now to number three in our first five web stories. celebrating winning the world's biggest lottery. $3.3 billion jackpot divided into thousands of cash prizesful biggest winners will get $5 t
he thought that -- mused at one point every law should be looked at again after 20 years. that one generation did not have the right to bind another. to my mind the most significant insight of his was that to ask a country to be governed by a constitution written when it was young is like asking a man to wear a child's coat. you don't simply accept as true things that are handed on simply because they are handed off. and we are -- there is a kind of -- back to the future quality to the gun...
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that's not the law. that will not be the law. we need people to stop big boi lying about the second amendment and stop talking seriously about the overwhelming abundance of guns in this country. >> david, your headline for the "washington post" reads more like a first paragraph but let's hear it. >> thinking, you know, we may be headed over the fiscal cliff, at least temporarily. i don't see a path forward right now for the republicans to agreece grow on the tax cuts. maybe the redskins in the playoffs are some good news. >> conley, what's the headline on let freedom ring's website? >> i think it's time to get serious. we've got to focus on the real problems, not making deals. we need solutions, not deals. we need solutions like cut, cap and balance that would address the debt ceiling as well as the fiscal cliff far more effectively than what's being discussed at the table today. >> a huge thanks to today's sunday brain trust panel, ari melber, david nakamura and colin hana. that's our show. thank you so much for watching. stay t
that's not the law. that will not be the law. we need people to stop big boi lying about the second amendment and stop talking seriously about the overwhelming abundance of guns in this country. >> david, your headline for the "washington post" reads more like a first paragraph but let's hear it. >> thinking, you know, we may be headed over the fiscal cliff, at least temporarily. i don't see a path forward right now for the republicans to agreece grow on the tax cuts....
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>> you want one more law on top of 20,000 laws. most of the federal gun laws we don't even adhere to. >> the other big story in washington, nine days until the fiscal cliff and no deal in sight with the president and congress home for the holidays, today key senators from both sides weigh in on the prospects of ayn greem before new year's. >> you know, if you look at the final positions last monday of both the president and speaker boehner, they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> if he were to say and the president were to say we're going to pass a bill, with a majority of democrats and majority of republicans in the house and senate, we could get a mainstream bill. >> if you want leaders, you have to lead. the president's been a pathetic fiscal leader. he's produced three budgets and can't get one vote for any of them. boehner will be tip o'neill, obama needs to be reagan. i would vote for revenues including tax rate hikes, even though i don't like them, to stave country from becoming greece. >> today, despite
>> you want one more law on top of 20,000 laws. most of the federal gun laws we don't even adhere to. >> the other big story in washington, nine days until the fiscal cliff and no deal in sight with the president and congress home for the holidays, today key senators from both sides weigh in on the prospects of ayn greem before new year's. >> you know, if you look at the final positions last monday of both the president and speaker boehner, they were this close. they were this...
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whether that law will accomplish its goal is irrelevant. policy-making has become an activity that supports the genetic and financial needs of policymakers and their follower tribes. the community's role, we've lately learned, is to provide revenue. where are we going with that? >> i think he started off in a legitimate direction where he talked about how much of the legislation is done with deadlines and during lame-duck sessions. we're responsive as opposed to getting proactive. i get where he's coming from with respect to failures with the assault weapons ban in 1994. if you had a ban prior to 1994, you could hold on to it, but that doesn't excuse the government from trying to curb some of these episodes of mass gun violence. i think there's an obligation as a society for us to try to figure out ways to make these less likely to happen. and whether that's a reintroduction of the assault weapons ban or whether it's something more simple like banning high-capacity magazines, you know, why wouldn't we try to see if that works? i have yet to
whether that law will accomplish its goal is irrelevant. policy-making has become an activity that supports the genetic and financial needs of policymakers and their follower tribes. the community's role, we've lately learned, is to provide revenue. where are we going with that? >> i think he started off in a legitimate direction where he talked about how much of the legislation is done with deadlines and during lame-duck sessions. we're responsive as opposed to getting proactive. i get...
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so let's not have any laws against drugs. the idea you can't create a perfect law so criminals get access and make it easy for them doesn't make sense. the point of gun control is to make it more difficult to get the weapons. why reason earth would we make it easier for them? >> no perfect answers for this and probably continue to debate this in the new year. my thanks to you all three. lynn, keith and alice, i appreciate all of your time. >> thank you. >>> next, a not so merry cliff-mas for retailers or wall street. how the stalled negotiations are already impacting this economy. >>> and a big question to you, are you optimistic that congress can reach a post-christmas fiscal cliff deal? tweet me. find me on facebook. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wi
so let's not have any laws against drugs. the idea you can't create a perfect law so criminals get access and make it easy for them doesn't make sense. the point of gun control is to make it more difficult to get the weapons. why reason earth would we make it easier for them? >> no perfect answers for this and probably continue to debate this in the new year. my thanks to you all three. lynn, keith and alice, i appreciate all of your time. >> thank you. >>> next, a not so...
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we have need-to-know information how the new health care law impacts how they do things. from try jump yumps to scandals, a look back at columns from around the country. keep it right here on "morning joe." [ woman ] dear cat, your hair mixes with pollen and dust. i get congested. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i have the proven allergy relief of zyrtec®, plus a powerful decongestant. zyrtec-d® lets me breath freer, so i can love the air. [ male announcer ] zyrtec-d®. behind the pharmacy counter. no prescription needed. >>> wow, this is huge. reverend al coming up, your second annual revy awards this monday new year's eve. >> monday, 6:00 eastern. we do a review of the year and get all dressed up and have a panel. we're not dressed up now? >> this is like oscar night when we talk about who did what in the politics and the winners and losers. year. it's really classy and humorous. >> how many winners as opposed to losers? >> there's an equal amount. we review it and are candid and we do it in a classy way. >> some of the winners are losers? >> some of the losers are winners
we have need-to-know information how the new health care law impacts how they do things. from try jump yumps to scandals, a look back at columns from around the country. keep it right here on "morning joe." [ woman ] dear cat, your hair mixes with pollen and dust. i get congested. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i have the proven allergy relief of zyrtec®, plus a powerful decongestant. zyrtec-d® lets me breath freer, so i can love the air. [ male announcer ] zyrtec-d®. behind the...
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what is now known as the waxman hatch orphan drug act became law. jack klugman pretty much enrolled orren hatch, not an easy thing to do. jack klugman lived a famous life that's worthy of note. he didn't just save lives on tv, he saved lives. may he rest in peace. we'll see you tomorrow. don't forget to check out my blog on the "washington post." now it's time for lawrence o'donnell.peace. that's it for tonight. see you tomorrow. check out my work at "washington post" at wonkblog.com. "first look" is up next. >>> right now on "first look," heavy snow, thunderstorms, freezing rain and high winds serving up a nightmare for stranded holiday travelers. >>> president obama aboard air force one right now racing back to washington to try to lead us away from the fiscal cliff. >>> former president george h.w. bush in intentive care. we'll have the latest on that. >>> a vigil for firefighters, a tornado in action and december surfing in the great lakes. good morning. i'm mara schiavocampo. a powerful winter storm that brought an odd mix of tornadoes, heavy w
what is now known as the waxman hatch orphan drug act became law. jack klugman pretty much enrolled orren hatch, not an easy thing to do. jack klugman lived a famous life that's worthy of note. he didn't just save lives on tv, he saved lives. may he rest in peace. we'll see you tomorrow. don't forget to check out my blog on the "washington post." now it's time for lawrence o'donnell.peace. that's it for tonight. see you tomorrow. check out my work at "washington post" at...
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right to work laws are a set of laws that are designed to restrict the ability of a union to maintain a constant membership. so you are forced into a situation where you are are constantly expending resources to reorganize what you have. and the plan is to allow the employers to maintain the upper hand while the workers no, ma sy have the brand of law. and workers have to stand up to it. you will see it played out this year, and next year in michigan where you have a i hoohighly organized industrial force and highly organized white collar force, and they have to figure it out and make this fight, and we will see an interesting year ahead. >> it feels that part of what is happening is the transition away so when you talk about the fast food wage workers or the walmart workers or the doe mmestic work who we got data on for the first time this year in terms of the working conditions, that is different than the like the longshoremen and the auto workers and the shop floor, and it is more likely to be women, people of color, and immigrants sometimes with marginal status. how do we take the
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gun laws should be made more strict. and that's a 14-point jump since last year. only 34% now essentially backing the status quo. how do you translate that soar of broad based openness in the capital where you and i know and everyone watching knows the nra still seems to have a lot of impact, they score these votes, not only on guns, they score the holder contempt vote, they score a lot of things and seem to move members of both parties. >> yeah. listen, i was not a big fan of -- i voted no on allowing guns in national parks. we actually had a woman who died in the northwest, backpacking and a young person thought she was an animal and shot her dead. that was an example recently of a change in my opinion in the other direction. i think instead of drawing lines right now and instead of -- you know, we had these incredible tragedies, what we immediate to do is come together and say how do we want to respond. i'm hoping if we take that approach, that -- my colleagues on both sides of the aisle will look at this and say we can do better than what we currently have. >>
gun laws should be made more strict. and that's a 14-point jump since last year. only 34% now essentially backing the status quo. how do you translate that soar of broad based openness in the capital where you and i know and everyone watching knows the nra still seems to have a lot of impact, they score these votes, not only on guns, they score the holder contempt vote, they score a lot of things and seem to move members of both parties. >> yeah. listen, i was not a big fan of -- i voted...
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what impact will this law have on those particular members of the black community? because you know we go from the gated to the ghetto. we have a lot of different minorities there. but tell us what impact it will have on the most vulnerable in the black communities? >> it's not hyperbole to suggest it literally kills hope in the hood because individuals who, begin, desire to go to college, what are they going to do now because of the cliff that we go over? they will find themselves unable to continue their education. those who are already struggling with unemployment and underemployment will find themselves victimized even further. it's almost as if you're saying to those who are on the jagged rocks of unemployment, the jagged rocks ever limited opportunity, what we are going to do is ensure now that we just i guess take it as they did in the old road runner cartoon, where they had a boulder to go over the cliff. you're already over the cliff, but now a boulder comes over to ensure that you're smashed. and again, i'm not engaging in hyperbole. i'm asking this nation
what impact will this law have on those particular members of the black community? because you know we go from the gated to the ghetto. we have a lot of different minorities there. but tell us what impact it will have on the most vulnerable in the black communities? >> it's not hyperbole to suggest it literally kills hope in the hood because individuals who, begin, desire to go to college, what are they going to do now because of the cliff that we go over? they will find themselves unable...
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you are are dealing with something that is about essentially taxes, and the constitutional and the laws make it a requirement that that originate in the house of representatives. they have the power of the purse. so one of the challenges beyond the political arguments and the handshake-style deal making we hope will happen over the next few days, there are the mechanics of getting it done and getting it done in time. now, i'm always surprised be by procedure that there is a way to pull a rabbit out of the hat when they have agreement, but there are steps to be taken. will they allow for much debate, or will the house take a look at what the senate has done, and the big power shift here, richa richard, is that we have been so focussed on the house and what speaker boehner could or could not do and the talks were focused between the president and speaker boehner. when he was unable to get enough votes for his idea to have the income tax threshold be at $1 mi million and when that did not work, he insisted that the senate begin to act. politically that is important, because they want to se
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florida and kansas passed laws banning islamic law in their state. a spokesperson for kansas governor sam brownback said, quote, kansas courts will rely exclusively on the laws of our state and nation when deciding cases and will not consider the laws of foreign jurisdictions. it's anybody's guess why we need a law confirming we follow the laws of our own country. seems redundant. >>> next, newt gingrich gets outshined by the sound of his own cell phone. he was talking about what went so wrong for republicans this past election when this happened. >> the romney campaign was wrong. they thought they were going to win. if you talked to them at 5:00 on election day, they would have told you they honestly believed they were going to win. i also think that -- the country is going to vote to be in a different position, and i think we have got to understand that -- >> is that a ring tone? what ring tone was that? >> i have two ring tones. i have "dancing queen" is my general ring tone for most people, and then my wife's ring tone is "super trouper." we stay
florida and kansas passed laws banning islamic law in their state. a spokesperson for kansas governor sam brownback said, quote, kansas courts will rely exclusively on the laws of our state and nation when deciding cases and will not consider the laws of foreign jurisdictions. it's anybody's guess why we need a law confirming we follow the laws of our own country. seems redundant. >>> next, newt gingrich gets outshined by the sound of his own cell phone. he was talking about what went...
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they got over 906 bills signed into law. how about speaker newt gingrich's congress. 333 bills signed into law. your congress has just 219 bills signed into law. >> the american people are sick of it. joining me now is clarence page, columnist for the chicago tribune. thank you both for being here. >> i'm glad to be here. thanks for having me. >> ryan, this "huffington post" story got a lot of coverage. >> it's as dysfunctional as anything we had in the modern era. it's great that amanda ran the traps on that. what she found is dozens of these bills managed simply renamed federal bills or post offices. so, in some ways, their accomplishments are even overstated. so, you know, it's just -- it's just been an awful two years from congress and the american people's opinion of it is right. i think it has an eight or nine or ten percent approval rating and that's probably generous. >> gallup says they're 68% on if fiscal cliff, but clarence page, you covered congress. you covered the hill in washington for some time better than --
they got over 906 bills signed into law. how about speaker newt gingrich's congress. 333 bills signed into law. your congress has just 219 bills signed into law. >> the american people are sick of it. joining me now is clarence page, columnist for the chicago tribune. thank you both for being here. >> i'm glad to be here. thanks for having me. >> ryan, this "huffington post" story got a lot of coverage. >> it's as dysfunctional as anything we had in the modern...
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. >> georgetown university law professor, david cole on the growing drum beat against the nra. >>> six days until the price of milk shoots up to $8 a gallon. why house republicans are take ing america to the dairy cliff. >>> and civil liberty groups take on torture in zero dark thirty. >>> if no deal is reached, the nation will go over the fiscal cliff in a little more than five days and house republicans are doing nothing more than posturing. president obama is flying back to washington tonight from his christmas vacation in hawaii to make one last attempt to get a deal before midnight new year's eve. the senate is returning and will be in session tomorrow for the same purpose. senate majority leader harry reid is trying to determine what kind of bill he can get through the senate with limited republican support. meanwhile, governor neil abercrombie of hawaii tonight announced that lieutenant governor brian schatz is as fit to feel the seat of the passed senator daniel inouye. he will leave hawaii for washington tonight and is expected to be sworn in sometime tomorrow afternoon. the d
. >> georgetown university law professor, david cole on the growing drum beat against the nra. >>> six days until the price of milk shoots up to $8 a gallon. why house republicans are take ing america to the dairy cliff. >>> and civil liberty groups take on torture in zero dark thirty. >>> if no deal is reached, the nation will go over the fiscal cliff in a little more than five days and house republicans are doing nothing more than posturing. president obama is...